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“The road will need to be constructed at some date in the future to 32-feet wide with curb, gutter, and trail,” said Cara. “The road is straight and flat which is why you’re seeing speed. There is no magic pill to get the speed down.” When Councilmember Tim Amundsen pointed out, “If you close that road, there’s no speed problem,” those neighbors in the audience applauded. “What is the purpose of that road?” asked Mayor Thun. Replied the engineer, “It is serving as a secondary access for people who don’t want to be on County Road 18. The intent would be to get people to their homes, for local people, without having to go on a major roadway.” Stated Administrator Uram, “The county is now doing a coping study for County Road 18. I see 18 as an alternative to driving Highway 5.” About 86th Street he said, “It’s not unusual for there to be a collector street along city boundaries.” “Nobody wanted to own that road for a while,” said Councilmember Jim Paulsen, who also served as councilmember about ten years ago. “Chaska has something to say about this. It’s an interesting dilemma.” Councilmember Tom O’Connor pointed out, “It is certainly designated as a minor collector in the 2030 Comprehensive Plan.” Commented Councilmember Tim Amundsen, who was also on the council about ten years ago, “The city was maintaining 86th Street for a number of years through an agreement with the township. Closing it to Kochia was very much in the discussion.” He added, “What does a dirt road do? Dirt roads slow people down.” The city engineer said that their traffic engineer is recommending the road speed be designated at 40 to 45 mph. “Most people drive at a safe speed,” she said, “so most people driving at the 43 mph feel safe.” Councilmember Roden suggested that with a 45 mph speed limit, people will be driving 50 mph “because of the fudge factor.” She said that there is one metropolitan group that suggests speed limits of 25 mph to take into account the fudge factor. *** Don Hules, a resident in the adjacent Allegheny neighborhood, addressed the issue. “They told us as prospective homebuyers that it would be plowed under. Despite what your speed studies say, there are many cars traveling 50 mph. It doesn’t make sense to upgrade 86th Street when County Road 18 is only 524 yards away. Victoria is spending money to maintain that road? Why? It’s hurting us as homeowners. Real estate people are telling us that the road is decreasing our property values by $30,000 to $40,000. Let’s make it a bike path.” David Peterson, also a resident at Allegheny, stated, “Speed is not the primary issue. Safety is! There are no shoulders on that road. My recommendation is to close the road. County Road 18 is only 500 yards to the north and Pioneer Trail is only one mile to the south.” Allegheny resident Jordan Hules, whose house backs up near 86th Street, said, “My little boy is not allowed to play in our backyard. Over on County Road 18, the homes are far away from the road. There they had time to plan. Put the bikers and the runners back on 86th. Give me back our backyard.” *** In addition to the tabling motion, there was also a motion by Councilmember Amundsen to, in the meantime, increase enforcement of the current 30 mph speed limit and ask the community to decrease their speed on that road. Kim Roden suggested borrowing a mobile speed display from Hennepin County since Carver County’s is broken.
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